
Chris C. got sober in 1995—but his recovery didn’t end there. In this honest and illuminating conversation, Chris reflects on what it means to go deeper after decades in recovery. From substance addiction to compulsive behaviors and unresolved trauma, he shares how sobriety opened the door—but it was therapy, meditation, and Buddhism that helped him walk through it.
We pulled the Two of Pentacles for this episode, a card about balance, adaptability, and the delicate dance of holding it all together. That energy shows up in Chris’s story as he shares how he’s learned to juggle emotional healing, aging, spiritual exploration, and service to others—without losing himself in the process.
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