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the spacemakers
spacemakers podcast
35 episodes
4 days ago
join us as we make space for intergenerational and hard conversations about controversial topics, faith deconstruction, church culture and beyond.🚀✨ [start at episode zero] : after listening to episode 2.0 feel free to skip around and listen to the episodes regarding topics you’re interested in!! we cannot WAIT to build this space with you!!
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join us as we make space for intergenerational and hard conversations about controversial topics, faith deconstruction, church culture and beyond.🚀✨ [start at episode zero] : after listening to episode 2.0 feel free to skip around and listen to the episodes regarding topics you’re interested in!! we cannot WAIT to build this space with you!!
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the spacemakers
episode 2.11 : SERIES FINALE

ahhh the long-awaited series finale ! we've been sitting on this one for a while and have finally got around to dropping our last episode ever!! this was recorded back in July 2023 and we cover topics such as : where we are at now, what our relationships with god are like, what we've learned, what we may have done differently, how we've found community, our healing journies, our thoughts on moving forward after church, and more!

from the bottom of our hearts we are so grateful for these past few years and are so excited for all that is to come. we love you all and are wishing you all peace, healing, community, and comfort!

keep making space and oh! #freepalestine

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1 year ago
1 hour 53 minutes 18 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.10 : LGBTQIA+ series part four | discussion

Join the Spacemakers for the final episode of our LGBTQIA+ series as we get personal and share about our own lives and thought processes regarding this topic!!

We'll be adding more resources this week!

As always, thank you for listening and making space!


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2 years ago
1 hour 29 minutes 2 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.9 : LGBTQIA+ series part three | "Gay and Christian?"
In our third episode of our LGBTQIA+ series, Janai and Devon discuss why the Spacemakers wanted to talk about this subject, and Meigan and Rachel talk about what they’ve learned about affirming theology. RESOURCES (just a few to get you started) : Podcasts: To Be Gay Affirming #10: You Have Permission The Bible and Intersex Believers : The Bible for Normal People The Bible and The Gay Christian : The Bible for Normal People LGBTQIA+ : The Liturgists Academia References: Sexing the Body-- Anne Fausto Sterling, 2000 Books: "Changing our Mind", David P. Gushee "God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Marriages", Matthew Vines "Unclobber", Colby Martin "Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians", Austen Hartke “Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church’s Debate in Same-Sex Relationships”, James V. Brownson Misc. "Pray Away" documentary on Netflix "1946" Documentary Romans 1, Dr. James Brownson Instagram: @theReformationProject : Bible-based approach to LGBTQ inclusion
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2 years ago
2 hours 5 minutes 19 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.8 : LGBTQIA+ series part two | sebastian's story

Thanks for joining us for the LGBTQIA+ series of the Spacemakers podcast! In this series we're going to be exploring the lived experiences of LGBTQIA+ people, different interpretations of the Bible that affirm LGBTQIA+ Christians and individuals, questions submitted by all of you (the listeners), and concluding discussion with all of the Spacemakers. We're so excited to be addressing and exploring this topic with all of you, we hope it catalyzes healing for those negatively affected by harmful theology and praxis, in addition to providing inspiration for allies and current members of the ICOC. 


Welcome to the second episode in our LGBTQIA+ series-- Sebastian's Story!! This one gets SPICY y'all🔥

*Trigger Warning* This episode does contain mentions of s*xual a*sault, b*llying, and mental health issues.

If you haven't already, please listen to episode one of our series and prepare for next week as we will discuss different Biblical interpretations surrounding sexuality with spacemakers Rachel Gonzalez, MPH, and Meigan Whitcomb.


SERIES SCHEDULE -- 

June 3rd : queer stories in the ICOC

June 10th : sebastian's story

June 17th : "Gay and Christian?"

June 23rd : discussion and Q & R

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2 years ago
58 minutes 50 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.7 : LGBTQIA+ series part one | queer stories in the ICOC

Thanks for joining us for the LGBTQIA+ series of the Spacemakers podcast! In this series we're going to be exploring the lived experiences of LGBTQIA+ people, different interpretations of the Bible that affirm LGBTQIA+ Christians and individuals, questions submitted by all of you (the listeners), and concluding discussion with all of the Spacemakers. We're so excited to be addressing and exploring this topic with all of you, we hope it catalyzes healing for those negatively affected by harmful theology and praxis, in addition to providing inspiration for allies and current members of the ICOC.


This episode is one of the most important episodes we've ever made.

**Trigger Warning** : this episode contains conversations around conversion therapy, s*icide ideation, mental health struggles and more.

This episode is truly our "why" and why it is important that we make space for experiences and opinions that might be different than our own. We hope you can listen with compassion and empathy and truly take these stories to heart.

From the bottom of our hearts, we want to thank the contributors of this episode who entrusted us with their stories. We see you, support you, and affirm you.


SERIES SCHEDULE --

June 3rd : queer stories in the ICOC

June 10th : sebastian's story

June 17th : "Gay and Christian?"

June 23rd : discussion and Q & R


ACADEMIC RESOURCES--

definitions and "sexuality 101" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqt-_ILgv5c (scientific articles/research sourced are in the video description)

psychology of sex & sexuality (brief history, definitions and some research conclusions): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qymp_VaFo9M

[More to be added soon]



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2 years ago
1 hour 17 minutes 45 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.6 : racial justice with Kevin Holland and James Sulewski
Buckle Up for the major drop we have in store for you all today!! We’re talking about racial justice with Kevin Holland and James Sulewski. We cover topics like: Generational Differences Friendship Brief Church History regarding Racial Dynamics Church Structure and in what ways the Church needs to adjust And more! At the end, Izzy makes a brief statement regarding the pending lawsuits against the ICOC, HOPEww, etc around the 1:48:45 mark. Rolling Stones Article Linked Here For more information regarding how to pursue racial justice in churches, please check out - Christians Seeking Justice group on Facebook and their website They have a seminar coming up February 18th @ 10am over ZOOM for those who want to learn more CSJ Seminar CSJ Website Resources - Disciples Working to Abolish the New Jim Crow group on Facebook - List of Books Recommended by James and Lisa Sulewski “Rediscipling the White Church” David Swanson “I’m still here, Black dignity in a world made for whiteness” Austin Channing Brown “Faithful Anti-racism” Christina Barland Edmundson & Chad Brennan “Unsettling Truths” Mark Charles & Soong-Chan Rah “Stamped from the Beginning” Ibram Kendi “Between the world and Me” Ta-Nehisi Coates “Be the Bridge” Latasha Morrison “When they call you a Terrorist” Patrice Kahn-Cullors & Asha Bandela As always, thank you so much for listening and keep making space!
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2 years ago
1 hour 53 minutes 29 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.5 : politics and media

Spacemakers Sebastian and Isabel discuss politics, news, and how to navigate them as Christians. Sebastian studied political science and international law, has worked for the United Nations and is currently a professional consultant for governments. Isabel studied Journalism and Media and worked as a reporter for many newsrooms and news outlets. They tackle questions like, should Christians "be political?" Should we pay attention to the news? What do we do when politics seem so divisive? and more!

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3 years ago
1 hour 31 minutes 58 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.4 : women and church panel

A panel episode about Women and Church, touching on gender roles, feminism in Christianity and more. You’ll hear from Spacemakers Isabel Gates and Meigan Whitcomb, and our friends Lisa Johnson and Celine Abello.

This is a 2-part drop with our Toxic Masculinity episode, which discusses patriarchy, masculinity, etc. But don’t go thinking that the Toxic Masculinity episode is just for men and the Women and Church episode is just for women! Both episodes touch on both topics & are conversations we think everyone should hear!

Resources are linked in our website!

OUR WEBSITE: www.spacemakerspodcast.com

Updated with Portland Disclaimer: October 25, 2022

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3 years ago
1 hour 46 minutes 3 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.3 : toxic masculinity panel

A panel episode about toxic masculinity, touching on patriarchy and more. You’ll hear from Spacemakers Devon Gates and Alex Cameron, and our friends Noah Mata and Mario Zamora.

This is a 2-part drop with our Women and Church episode, which discusses gender roles, feminism in Christianity, and more. But don’t go thinking that the Toxic Masculinity episode is just for men and the Women and Church episode is just for women! Both episodes touch on both topics & are conversations we think everyone should hear!

Resources are linked in our website!

OUR WEBSITE: www.spacemakerspodcast.com

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3 years ago
1 hour 18 minutes 8 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.2 : speaking up in church with lifeline.la x Wound of My People

For this episode, our main host Isabel Gates interviews two youth movements within church spaces “lifeline. la” and “Wound of My People”. They talk about their experiences speaking up in church, how they started, hardships, boundaries and more! 

Resources: 

Check out lifeline. la’s work on instagram @lifeline.la and Wound of My people’s work on instagram and facebook at @woundofmypeople 


TRANSCRIPT LINK: coming soon!!

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3 years ago
1 hour 46 minutes 13 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.1 : church, power and empire with Marty Solomon

For this episode, our main host Isabel Gates has a candid conversation with one of our returning guests, Marty Solomon about Church, power and Empire.


Resources Mentioned : 

Brené Brown-- Braving the Wilderness

Check out more of Marty’s work at https://www.bemadiscipleship.com or Marty and his team’s podcast BEMA Discipleship on Apple podcasts. 

TRANSCRIPT LINK: coming soon!!

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3 years ago
1 hour 4 minutes 7 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 2.0 : the re-intro

For this first episode, we'll be re-introducing ourselves and setting the tone for season 2 by telling you guys why we wanted to come back and what will be different this time around. This episode will be the intro episode we'll direct all new listeners to, and for our current listeners it will give you guys a good idea of what changes and new topics to expect moving forward. Season 2, we're coming back braver and bolder. 

TRANSCRIPT LINK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A4f1PbaKiLjcO5BAlZO-IezZ3GnVempI/view?usp=drivesdk

OUR WEBSITE: www.spacemakerspodcast.com

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3 years ago
56 minutes 2 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.14 : season one finale

For the last episode of the season, the Spacemakers get together to talk about what they’ve learned through the process of making this podcast, how this year has changed their relationships with God and their churches, and discuss plans for the future of the podcast.

RESOURCES: 

SPACEMAKERS BOOK LIST: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=NzY0YjFjMTYtYmQ4Zi00YjZjLWJiNzYtZGZhYzY3NDc1MDVk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup 

Podcasts:     

⁃ Bema Discipleship

⁃ The Deconstructionists

⁃ The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

⁃ Reclaiming My Theology

⁃ The Bible for Normal People with Peter Enns

⁃ The Space Between

⁃ The RobCast

⁃ The Protagonistas 

Books/Authors:

⁃ Rachel Held Evans (start with “Searching for Sunday”!)

⁃ Richard Rohr

⁃ Rob Bell

⁃ Sarah Bessey

⁃ Peter Enns 

More from the Spacemakers:

⁃ our website: www.spacemakerspodcast.com

- @spacemakers.podcast on instagram

- join our facebook community group: "spacemakers community group"

- @lifeline.la on instagram

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3 years ago
1 hour 54 minutes 44 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.13 : deconstructing the Bible with Marty Solomon | part 2, the panel

We've finally landed at the last guest in our deconstruction series!! In this episode, part 2 of Deconstructing the Bible, the Spacemakers discuss with Marty Solomon about a variety of topics.

Don't forget to check out the BEMA podcast on apple podcasts to get more insight on Marty and the whole team's work!


RESOURCES:

SPACEMAKERS BOOK LIST: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=NzY0YjFjMTYtYmQ4Zi00YjZjLWJiNzYtZGZhYzY3NDc1MDVk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup

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FIND US:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast

Email: spacemakers.podcast@gmail.com

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4 years ago
51 minutes 58 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.13 : deconstructing the Bible with Marty Solomon | part 1, the interview

We've finally landed at the last guest in our deconstruction series!! In this episode, Isabel asks Marty Solomon, co-host of the BEMA podcast, a variety of questions regarding his personal religious background and his journey through deconstruction. They discuss questions about biblical literalism, proof texting, and much much more!!

Don't forget to check out the BEMA podcast on apple podcasts to get more insight on Marty and the whole team's work!

RESOURCES:

SPACEMAKERS BOOK LIST: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=NzY0YjFjMTYtYmQ4Zi00YjZjLWJiNzYtZGZhYzY3NDc1MDVk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup

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FIND US:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast

Email: spacemakers.podcast@gmail.com

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4 years ago
55 minutes 53 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.12 : rethinking the path to conversion with Matt Anjilivelil | part 2, the panel

The Spacemakers talk with Matt Anjilivelil about the process of conversion, specifically about ICOC’s Bible study series and how we should use it. 


RESOURCES:

SPACEMAKERS BOOK LIST: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=NzY0YjFjMTYtYmQ4Zi00YjZjLWJiNzYtZGZhYzY3NDc1MDVk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup

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FIND US:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast

Email: Spacemakers.podcast@gmail.com

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4 years ago
53 minutes 24 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.12 : rethinking the path to conversion with Matt Anjilivelil | part 1, the interview

An interview with Matt Anjilivelil about the process of conversion, specifically about ICOC’s Bible study series and how we should use it. 


RESOURCES:

SPACEMAKERS BOOK LIST: https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=NzY0YjFjMTYtYmQ4Zi00YjZjLWJiNzYtZGZhYzY3NDc1MDVk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup

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FIND US:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast

Email: Spacemakers.podcast@gmail.com

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4 years ago
44 minutes 56 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.11 : reimagining church with Jack Meisinger | part 2, the panel

Part 2 with Jack Meisinger and the Spacemakers Team brainstorming ideas about what church could look like. 

RESOURCES:

Books mentioned by Jack:

Paga Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices

House Church And Mission: The Importance Of Household Structures In Early Christianity

BOOKS:

Searching for Sunday: Loving, Leaving and Finding Church by Rachel Held Evans

Life in Community by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

The Other Half of Church by Jim Wilder and Michel Hendricks

Repenting of Religion by Gregory A. Boyd

OUR GOODREADS BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680

FIND US:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast

Email: Spacemakers.podcast@gmail.com

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4 years ago
51 minutes 2 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.11 : reimagining church with Jack Meisinger | part 1, the interview

Part 1 of the interview with Jack Meisinger, brainstorming ideas about what church could look like. 


RESOURCES:

Books mentioned by Jack:

Paga Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices 

House Church And Mission: The Importance Of Household Structures In Early Christianity 


BOOKS:

Searching for Sunday: Loving, Leaving and Finding Church by Rachel Held Evans

Life in Community by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

The Other Half of Church by Jim Wilder and Michel Hendricks

Repenting of Religion by Gregory A. Boyd

OUR GOODREADS BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680


FIND US:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast

Email: Spacemakers.podcast@gmail.com

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4 years ago
1 hour 1 minute 33 seconds

the spacemakers
episode 1.10 : rethinking “unity” with Nick Zola | part 2, the panel

Part 2 of our conversation with Nick Zola, Pepperdine professor of religion and Vice President of Common Grounds Unity. The Spacemakers join to discuss relationships between Christians in different churches and denominations, and touch on the “one true church” mentality. 

RESOURCES: 

More on Common Grounds: 

Website (https://www.commongroundsunity.org) 

Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0nQaFChZOysuuIP8UVwn7i?si=IOU49ZveR3KCdGlnbbMJug&dl_branch=1) 

Facebook Group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/249001165687212) 

Our recommended books list (https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=YWQyYWE2YzUtODU4OS00Yjg0LTkwYzctZGU0ZDJmMjE3NWMy&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup ) 

Book referenced by Isabel: Searching for Sunday by Rachel Held Evans (https://www.amazon.com/Searching-Sunday-Loving-Leaving-Finding/dp/0718022122/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RNV0UJI7EY9C&dchild=1&keywords=searching+for+sunday&qid=1632265484&sprefix=searching+for%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-1 )

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4 years ago
40 minutes 20 seconds

the spacemakers
join us as we make space for intergenerational and hard conversations about controversial topics, faith deconstruction, church culture and beyond.🚀✨ [start at episode zero] : after listening to episode 2.0 feel free to skip around and listen to the episodes regarding topics you’re interested in!! we cannot WAIT to build this space with you!!