After World War I, Marshal Philippe Pétain was one of France's greatest military heroes. For decades he was held in the highest esteem, but then France fell to the Nazis in 1940 and Pétain instigated the signing of the armistice and began a collaboration with the Third Reich that has led many to wonder how he could do such a thing. Julian Jackson, preeminent historian and author of numerous works on World War II France, joined the podcast to discuss the Marshal and his fall from grace. Pétain, the subject of his latest work "France on Trial," is front and center during this conversation.

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