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The So Strangely Podcast
Finn Upham
15 episodes
9 months ago
Investigating the how and why of recent research in interdisciplinary Music Science by interviewing researchers from two angles: inside and outside of their area. Every episode, an expert shares their recommendation for a recent publication and we call up the PI to discuss how the research went and what the results mean for music and science. Note: This podcast is tailored for people into music and science, academics and students in the field rather than the general public.
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Investigating the how and why of recent research in interdisciplinary Music Science by interviewing researchers from two angles: inside and outside of their area. Every episode, an expert shares their recommendation for a recent publication and we call up the PI to discuss how the research went and what the results mean for music and science. Note: This podcast is tailored for people into music and science, academics and students in the field rather than the general public.
Show more...
Life Sciences
Music,
Music Commentary,
Science,
Social Sciences
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Episode 5: Cross-culture variation in preferences for consonance, with Dan Shanahan and guest Josh McDermott
The So Strangely Podcast
59 minutes 33 seconds
7 years ago
Episode 5: Cross-culture variation in preferences for consonance, with Dan Shanahan and guest Josh McDermott
Music Theorist Daniel Shanahan recommends "Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception" by Josh H. McDermott, Alan F. Schultz, Eduardo A. Undurraga, and Ricardo A. Godoy, published in Nature Letters in 2016. Dan and Finn interview Josh about the musical culture of the Tsimane people, adapting music cognition experiments for cross-cultural studies, and what the absence of preference for consonant intervals (over dissonant intervals) in the people of one culture means for theories of music cognition more broadly.
Time Stamps

[0:00:00] Introduction with Dan
[0:13:16] Interview with Josh and introduction to the Tsimane and their music culture
[0:22:41] Experiment Design on Preference for Consonance and Dissonance
[0:28:04] Experiment results and the distinction between melodic and harmonic intervals
[0:32:53] Cross-culture study methodologies and follow up studies
[0:38:39] Implications of results on experiences of western music listeners
[0:42:04] Relationship of these results to other studies of preference for consonance
[0:48:16] Closing with Dan

 
Show notes

Recommended article:

McDermott, J. H., Schultz, A. F., Undurraga, E. A., & Godoy, R. A. (2016). Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception. Nature, 535(7613), 547.


Interviewee: Prof. Josh McDermott, Associate Professor, Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
* Co-host: Prof. Dan Shanahan, Assistant Professor of Music Theory and Cognition at Ohio State University
Works cited in the discussion:

Trainor, L. J., Tsang, C. D., & Cheung, V. H. (2002). Preference for sensory consonance in 2-and 4-month-old infants. Music Perception: An Interdisciplinary Journal, 20(2), 187-194.
Chiandetti, C., & Vallortigara, G. (2011). Chicks like consonant music. Psychological science, 22(10), 1270-1273.
McDermott, J., & Hauser, M. (2004). Are consonant intervals music to their ears? Spontaneous acoustic preferences in a nonhuman primate. Cognition, 94(2), B11-B21.
Polak, R., London, J., & Jacoby, N. (2016). Both isochronous and non-isochronous metrical subdivision afford precise and stable ensemble entrainment: a corpus study of malian jembe drumming. Frontiers in Neuroscience, 10, 285.
Jacoby, N., & McDermott, J. H. (2017). Integer ratio priors on musical rhythm revealed cross-culturally by iterated reproduction. Current Biology, 27(3), 359-370.



 
Credits
The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018.

Audio samples of Tsimane singing and experiment stimuli are taken form the Supplementary materials (samples 3, 4, 8, and 1) to the recommended article. Included with permission from Prof. McDermott.

The closing music includes a sample of Deutsch’s Speech-Song Illusion Sound Demo 1.
The So Strangely Podcast
Investigating the how and why of recent research in interdisciplinary Music Science by interviewing researchers from two angles: inside and outside of their area. Every episode, an expert shares their recommendation for a recent publication and we call up the PI to discuss how the research went and what the results mean for music and science. Note: This podcast is tailored for people into music and science, academics and students in the field rather than the general public.