Michael Brasseur and Rob Murray are joined by Marcus Wandt – astronaut, test pilot, and now Chief Innovation Officer at Saab. Marcus shares insights on the future of human space exploration, the role of AI and autonomy, and how to build innovative teams that turn bold visions into reality. From redefining "impossible" to building trust between humans and machines, this is a wide-ranging conversation about technology, mindset, and pushing the boundaries of what's next.

The Skapa Podcast invites visionary leaders across industries to share their ideal future, unbound by current constraints. Together, we explore what it would take to turn these visions into reality—discussing the necessary innovations, strategic shifts, and collaborative efforts to bring about transformative change in defense and security.