Max Brandel of Brandel Counseling talks about his experience working as a counselor for inmates inside of prisons. Max talks about his expectations about prisons, his expectations of inmates, what he learned as a counselor, and what we all can learn from his time as a prison counselor. Find Max Brandel at: https://www.better-relationships.work/ Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:40 - Who is Max Brandel? 06:40 - Did a lack of fear inspire a career in corrections? 09:08 - First impresstions of prison 10:16 - Do inmates assault visitors? 12:51 - Does anybody WANT to be in prison? 15:02 - What counseling practices inside prisons would be helpful outsde prisons? 18:05 - What were the lessons learned from prison?