In this conversation, Garr Punnett and Peter discuss Peter's career journey from finance to the circular economy, highlighting his experiences at REI and Trove. They explore the challenges and opportunities in building sustainable business models, the importance of circularity in retail, and the innovative technologies being developed at Tersys to support these efforts. In this conversation, Peter discusses the unique positioning of his company in the B2B landscape, emphasizing their role as a solution provider for premium brands. He elaborates on the importance of balancing brand recognition with behind-the-scenes service, the competitive investment landscape, and the shift from venture capital to sustainable growth models. The discussion also touches on the future of the circular economy and the hope for a more sustainable industry.