This time, Ollie returns (not so fresh) from Chicago and he and Tom explore two very different but deeply connected sides of the decarbonisation puzzle: infrastructure and investment.

First, Ollie sits down with Wesley Herche, Director of Enterprise Sustainability at Prologis, to unpack what it means to decarbonise from the middle of the value chain. Wes shares how a real estate company with over a billion square feet of space is helping customers – from Amazon to Walmart – cut emissions through onsite solar, EV charging, battery storage, and more. He also reflects on his journey from defense intelligence to sustainability leadership, and why procurement is the linchpin to Scope 3 action.

Then, we go deep into the carbon removals market with Alison Barto and Jessica Leigh from Carbonaires. They explain why most companies are underestimating the role carbon credits will play in reaching net zero, and how Carbonaires is working to build trust, integrity, and scale into this often-misunderstood market. From rigorous due diligence to AI-powered portfolio tools – and yes, capturing CO₂ from whisky distilleries – this is a crash course in what credible carbon removal looks like today.

Whether you're on the buy side, the build side, or just trying to navigate Scope 3, this episode delivers real insights and practical takeaways.

Key takeaways include:

• Why Prologis calls its tenants “customers” — and how that mindset shapes climate strategy

• Decarbonising industrial real estate through long-term capital and portfolio thinking

• The case for carbon removals: why companies can't ignore credits

• Fixing trust in the voluntary carbon market: due diligence, risk frameworks, insurance

• Tools Carbonaires is building to help companies buy smarter and scale faster

• What whisky, cement, and CO₂ have in common

🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast