This time, Ollie and Tom bring you two more powerful conversations that reveal very different – but equally essential – sides of the Scope 3 challenge.

First up, Ollie sits down with Mark Rowland, founder of ROCeteer and former innovation lead for the US Air Force. From working with tech billionaires in Las Vegas to overhauling federal procurement to spark startup collaboration, Mark’s experience is pretty wild (and is making Ollie feel rather inadequate). His take? Innovation is being blocked by outdated rules, and procurement is either your biggest lever or your worst bottleneck. You’ll hear about crowd-sourced RFPs, AI-enhanced matchmaking, and the case for “serendipity at scale.”

Then, Tom sits down with Scott Raskin and Kevin Vranes from Worldly, the platform formerly known as the Higg Index. With over 40,000 suppliers on board, Worldly is scaling primary data collection across the global supply chain and layering in AI to pinpoint where and how to act. They share how they’re helping consumer goods brands move from measurement to meaningful decarbonization.

Plus, Ollie and Tom break down all of this week’s big Scope 3 news, including:

Whether you’re looking for the tech, the tactics, or the human side of Scope 3, these episodes continue to deliver.

🎧 Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast