Dave and Thomas talk about their experiences as product leaders, and the differences between PM in big companies and small companies. We look at how Salesforce, SuccessFactors and other large companies manage product teams, and explore if that helps or hinders in the context of small companies.  One nugget. Big company product management is usually big M small p. Start-up product management is big P small m.  We talk about the day in the life of a product leader, and we also mention rhinos and kangaroos.