In this episode, hosts Jonny Lew and Callum discuss the recent sacking of St Helens' head coach Paul Wellens, reflecting on the team's tumultuous season.

They analyse the challenges of transitioning coaches, the impact of player recruitment and retention, and the importance of adapting strategies in rugby league.

The conversation delves into team selection decisions, the role of experience in team dynamics, and the future of St Helens as they navigate these changes.

Johnny and Callum also discuss the current state of player recruitment and retention at the saints, focusing on the challenges faced by their club. They explore strategic decisions regarding team composition, the necessity of coaching changes, and the importance of effective communication with fans. Reflecting on a disappointing season, they emphasise the need for a clear plan moving forward to ensure the club's stability and success.