Season 7, Episode 10. — Kelly Ann Shaw, Partner at Akin Gump.
I first met Kelly Ann when I was beginning my own work in international trade. At the time, she was my counterpart in the U.S. Delegation, handling disputes and other complex issues. Since then, her career has soared—spanning the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the White House.
We recently reconnected during the WTO Public Forum in Geneva, a gathering of some of the most influential thinkers, policymakers, and practitioners in the field of trade. There, I had the opportunity to sit down with Kelly Ann to discuss her career, her perspectives on the current state of international trade, and what the future may hold. With her wealth of experience and unique vantage point, she brings insights you won’t want to miss.
Beyond her impressive résumé, Kelly Ann is also a warm and engaging conversationalist, with a fascinating life story that makes this conversation both thoughtful and enjoyable.
So, without further ado, here’s my conversation with Kelly Ann.
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Musical theme by Hugo Torres.
Featuring:
Kelly Ann Shaw
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https://www.csis.org/people/kelly-ann-shaw
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Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
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Season 7, Episode 10. — Kelly Ann Shaw, Partner at Akin Gump.
I first met Kelly Ann when I was beginning my own work in international trade. At the time, she was my counterpart in the U.S. Delegation, handling disputes and other complex issues. Since then, her career has soared—spanning the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the White House.
We recently reconnected during the WTO Public Forum in Geneva, a gathering of some of the most influential thinkers, policymakers, and practitioners in the field of trade. There, I had the opportunity to sit down with Kelly Ann to discuss her career, her perspectives on the current state of international trade, and what the future may hold. With her wealth of experience and unique vantage point, she brings insights you won’t want to miss.
Beyond her impressive résumé, Kelly Ann is also a warm and engaging conversationalist, with a fascinating life story that makes this conversation both thoughtful and enjoyable.
So, without further ado, here’s my conversation with Kelly Ann.
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The views, thoughts, and opinions shared in the conversation belong to the individuals sharing them and do not necessarily represent the views of their employers.
Musical theme by Hugo Torres.
Featuring:
Kelly Ann Shaw
https://www.akingump.com/en/lawyers-advisors/kelly-ann-shaw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-ann-shaw-7312555/
https://www.csis.org/people/kelly-ann-shaw
Host:
Rodolfo Rivas
www.linkedin.com/in/rivasrodolfo/
rodolforivas.com/
rodolforivasproject.com/
www.imdb.com/name/nm10789558/
works.bepress.com/rivas_rodolfo/
rivasrod.medium.com/
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsBy…fm?per_id=1665778
X: @rivasrod
About The Rodolfo Rivas Project:
Join me in a quest for the perfect conversation. Chronicling International Geneva and beyond. Currently in season seven and going strong!
Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
Available at: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, SoundCloud, Google Podcasts, Pandora, Facebook podcasts, Deezer, Stitcher, etc.
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Season 7, Episode 4. Marco Molina, founder of Molina & Associates, in Geneva, Switzerland.
Marco officially becomes my first guest to come back for a second conversation, since a lot has changed since the last time we spoke!
In our conversation, we will start where we left off, discussing the informal process Marco facilitated on World Trade Organization (WTO) dispute settlement reform, how he approached it, and the lessons he learned.
We also discuss his transition from a long-serving government official to the private sector, where he has been providing his expertise to a wide range of clients. You will not want to miss some of the key insights he has gained from this process and his views on what may come next.
It is always a pleasure to talk to Marco; this conversation was no exception!
Subscribe if you haven’t!
This is me talking to Marco.
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Musical theme by Hugo Torres.
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Marco Molina
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About The Rodolfo Rivas Project:
Join me in a quest for the perfect conversation. Chronicling International Geneva and beyond. Currently in season seven and going strong!
Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
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Season 7, Episode 10. — Kelly Ann Shaw, Partner at Akin Gump.
I first met Kelly Ann when I was beginning my own work in international trade. At the time, she was my counterpart in the U.S. Delegation, handling disputes and other complex issues. Since then, her career has soared—spanning the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the White House.
We recently reconnected during the WTO Public Forum in Geneva, a gathering of some of the most influential thinkers, policymakers, and practitioners in the field of trade. There, I had the opportunity to sit down with Kelly Ann to discuss her career, her perspectives on the current state of international trade, and what the future may hold. With her wealth of experience and unique vantage point, she brings insights you won’t want to miss.
Beyond her impressive résumé, Kelly Ann is also a warm and engaging conversationalist, with a fascinating life story that makes this conversation both thoughtful and enjoyable.
So, without further ado, here’s my conversation with Kelly Ann.
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The views, thoughts, and opinions shared in the conversation belong to the individuals sharing them and do not necessarily represent the views of their employers.
Musical theme by Hugo Torres.
Featuring:
Kelly Ann Shaw
https://www.akingump.com/en/lawyers-advisors/kelly-ann-shaw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-ann-shaw-7312555/
https://www.csis.org/people/kelly-ann-shaw
Host:
Rodolfo Rivas
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rodolforivas.com/
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www.imdb.com/name/nm10789558/
works.bepress.com/rivas_rodolfo/
rivasrod.medium.com/
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsBy…fm?per_id=1665778
X: @rivasrod
About The Rodolfo Rivas Project:
Join me in a quest for the perfect conversation. Chronicling International Geneva and beyond. Currently in season seven and going strong!
Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
Available at: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, SoundCloud, Google Podcasts, Pandora, Facebook podcasts, Deezer, Stitcher, etc.
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