Season 7, Episode 10. — Kelly Ann Shaw, Partner at Akin Gump.
I first met Kelly Ann when I was beginning my own work in international trade. At the time, she was my counterpart in the U.S. Delegation, handling disputes and other complex issues. Since then, her career has soared—spanning the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the White House.
We recently reconnected during the WTO Public Forum in Geneva, a gathering of some of the most influential thinkers, policymakers, and practitioners in the field of trade. There, I had the opportunity to sit down with Kelly Ann to discuss her career, her perspectives on the current state of international trade, and what the future may hold. With her wealth of experience and unique vantage point, she brings insights you won’t want to miss.
Beyond her impressive résumé, Kelly Ann is also a warm and engaging conversationalist, with a fascinating life story that makes this conversation both thoughtful and enjoyable.
So, without further ado, here’s my conversation with Kelly Ann.
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Kelly Ann Shaw
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https://www.csis.org/people/kelly-ann-shaw
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Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
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Season 7, Episode 10. — Kelly Ann Shaw, Partner at Akin Gump.
I first met Kelly Ann when I was beginning my own work in international trade. At the time, she was my counterpart in the U.S. Delegation, handling disputes and other complex issues. Since then, her career has soared—spanning the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the White House.
We recently reconnected during the WTO Public Forum in Geneva, a gathering of some of the most influential thinkers, policymakers, and practitioners in the field of trade. There, I had the opportunity to sit down with Kelly Ann to discuss her career, her perspectives on the current state of international trade, and what the future may hold. With her wealth of experience and unique vantage point, she brings insights you won’t want to miss.
Beyond her impressive résumé, Kelly Ann is also a warm and engaging conversationalist, with a fascinating life story that makes this conversation both thoughtful and enjoyable.
So, without further ado, here’s my conversation with Kelly Ann.
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The views, thoughts, and opinions shared in the conversation belong to the individuals sharing them and do not necessarily represent the views of their employers.
Musical theme by Hugo Torres.
Featuring:
Kelly Ann Shaw
https://www.akingump.com/en/lawyers-advisors/kelly-ann-shaw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-ann-shaw-7312555/
https://www.csis.org/people/kelly-ann-shaw
Host:
Rodolfo Rivas
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rodolforivas.com/
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works.bepress.com/rivas_rodolfo/
rivasrod.medium.com/
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsBy…fm?per_id=1665778
X: @rivasrod
About The Rodolfo Rivas Project:
Join me in a quest for the perfect conversation. Chronicling International Geneva and beyond. Currently in season seven and going strong!
Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
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Season 6, Episode 8. Jennifer Brant. Founder and Principal at Innovations Insights.
Jennifer heads a boutique consulting firm specializing in strategic communications and government affairs.
If you work in International Geneva, you may encounter Jennifer. I have been following her career due to its intersection with many of the same topics we work on, and I met her a couple of years ago. Due to her experience covering law firms, policy, and the private sector, I wanted to hear more about her journey, and my conversation with her did not disappoint.
Jennifer's career has taken her across the globe, from Sidley Austin LLP in Geneva to Oxfam in Washington, D.C., and Geneva, and Gianni Origoni & Partners in Milan. Her experiences are not just stories but a treasure trove of valuable insights that will captivate and inspire you.
In this episode, we delve into her experiences in global policy research and advocacy, her work on World Trade Organization dispute settlement and policy, and the lessons she learned at UCLA, Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS), and the Geneva Graduate Institute.
Engaging in a conversation with Jennifer was an absolute joy, and I'm confident you'll be equally captivated with this episode.
Subscribe and be part of the conversation!
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Featuring:
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https://www.iam-media.com/authors/jennifer-brant
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About The Rodolfo Rivas Project:
Join me in a quest for the perfect conversation. Chronicling International Geneva and beyond. Currently in season six, and going strong!
Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include: Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to the WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Edward Kwakwa (Assistant DG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Affairs at IOC), Marco Aleman (Assistant DG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to the WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary of the Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research and Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist, WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker) and Robin Tallendier Co-Founder at Atelier Wen.
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Season 7, Episode 10. — Kelly Ann Shaw, Partner at Akin Gump.
I first met Kelly Ann when I was beginning my own work in international trade. At the time, she was my counterpart in the U.S. Delegation, handling disputes and other complex issues. Since then, her career has soared—spanning the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, the U.S. House of Representatives, and even the White House.
We recently reconnected during the WTO Public Forum in Geneva, a gathering of some of the most influential thinkers, policymakers, and practitioners in the field of trade. There, I had the opportunity to sit down with Kelly Ann to discuss her career, her perspectives on the current state of international trade, and what the future may hold. With her wealth of experience and unique vantage point, she brings insights you won’t want to miss.
Beyond her impressive résumé, Kelly Ann is also a warm and engaging conversationalist, with a fascinating life story that makes this conversation both thoughtful and enjoyable.
So, without further ado, here’s my conversation with Kelly Ann.
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The views, thoughts, and opinions shared in the conversation belong to the individuals sharing them and do not necessarily represent the views of their employers.
Musical theme by Hugo Torres.
Featuring:
Kelly Ann Shaw
https://www.akingump.com/en/lawyers-advisors/kelly-ann-shaw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-ann-shaw-7312555/
https://www.csis.org/people/kelly-ann-shaw
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Rodolfo Rivas
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rodolforivas.com/
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papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsBy…fm?per_id=1665778
X: @rivasrod
About The Rodolfo Rivas Project:
Join me in a quest for the perfect conversation. Chronicling International Geneva and beyond. Currently in season seven and going strong!
Our guests are talented individuals across various fields (lawyers, diplomats, entrepreneurs, academics, filmmakers, etc.). Ranked in the top 10% of podcasts in the world.
Some of our guests include Dr. Willy Mutunga (former Chief Justice Kenya), Dr. Chang-fa Lo (former Constitutional Court Justice), Dr. Grethel Aguilar (DG of IUCN), Dr. Peter Van den Bossche (fmr. Chairman of the Appellate Body WTO), Jesus Seade (Undersecretary for North America Mexico's MFA), Amb. Angel Villalobos (Mexico to WTO), Petros Mavoridis (Columbia Law School & CAS Arbitrator), Johanna Hill (DDG WTO), Edward Kwakwa (ADG at WIPO), Howard Stupp (two-time Pan American gold medalist & fmr. Director of Legal Afrs. at IOC), Marco Aleman (ADG at WIPO), David Bisbee (DPR Mission of US to WTO), Lenka Nahlovska (Secretary Czech Arbitration Court), Barbara Ramos (Chief Research & Strategies ITC), Ralph Ossa (Chief Economist WTO), David Zonana (filmmaker), Amb. James Baxter (Australia to WTO), Amb. Nadia B. Theodore (Canada to WTO), Anna Kazejak (filmmaker), Andreas Koefoed (filmmaker), and Andres Veiel (filmmaker).
Available at: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon, SoundCloud, Google Podcasts, Pandora, Facebook podcasts, Deezer, Stitcher, etc.
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