Kasey Chambers is nothing short of a national treasure. We as a nation cried and supported her when 'Not Pretty Enough' burst Kasey onto the scene.

It was an anthem people related to and was in so many ways the most unlikely to be a number one hit.

Now her 13th album is out, 'Backbone' which accompanies her book 'Just Don't Be a Dickhead'.

A lot has changed in her life, but this album feels like it crosses all stages of her career with music that could have featured on any of her earlier albums.

Kasey's life is an amazing one, in this chat, we hear about her childhood and how her father influenced her music style and the balancing act that is touring and having a family.

This is The Rider with Becko and Kasey Chambers.