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🎙️ “Drones, Russia, and the Future of Warfare — with CW5 (Ret.) Joey Gagnard, Glenn Corn (Former CIA), and Ryan Fugit | Restricted Handling Podcast”
The future of warfare is already here.
In this episode of the Restricted Handling Podcast, former CIA Senior Intelligence Service Case Officer Glenn Corn and former Army Aviator and CIA officer Ryan Fugit, are joined by and U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer 5 (Ret.) Joey Gagnard, who spent years at the tip of the spear in USASOC, to pull back the curtain on how drones, AI, and global geopolitics are reshaping the modern battlefield, from Ukraine’s front lines to America’s homeland defense.
Joey is an expert on drones, from his time in uniform to his new path since retiring. He's visited Ukraine with Glenn and they've seen the changing battlespace firsthand.
🛰️ What You’ll Hear
🚀 Inside the Drone Revolution: How unmanned systems and FPVs are rewriting the rules of combat in Ukraine and beyond.
💥 Russia & Ukraine Updates: Sanctions, cyber warfare, and why 2025 could redefine global power.
🧠 AI Meets the Battlefield: How machine learning is changing targeting, surveillance, and counter-drone defense.
⚙️ Critical Infrastructure Under Fire: Why the next attacks might target grids, ports, and pipelines — not soldiers.
🌍 The Global Drone Race: How China, Iran, and Turkey are shaping the future of unmanned weapons.
💡 The Good Side of Drones: From precision agriculture to emergency response — where civilian innovation meets military tech.
🧩 Featured Guests
🎖️ Joey Gagnard
Chief Warrant Officer 5 (Ret.), U.S. Army
Joey Gagnard concluded nearly three decades of distinguished service in the U.S. military, retiring from the special operations community in early 2025. His career included leadership roles across the Middle East and other operational theaters, where he helped pioneer advanced UAV and defense technologies.
A graduate of multiple intelligence and executive leadership programs, Joey now leads strategic innovation initiatives in the defense sector.
🔗 Find Joey at https://www.atlasprojects.org/
https://www.thecipherbrief.com/ukraine-drones-russia-china
🕵️♂️ Glenn Corn
Former Senior CIA Operations Officer, Member of the Senior Executive Service, and Adjunct Professor of Russian/Soviet Studies
With 34 years across the CIA, Defense, and State Department, Glenn Corn served as the U.S. President’s senior representative for intelligence and security issues, including 17+ years overseas in critical national security roles.
Today, he advises on global intelligence, risk, and strategic security challenges while teaching at the Institute of World Politics.
🔗 Find Glenn at https://greatsouthbayinc.com/
🎧 Ryan Fugit
Host | Former Army Aviator & CIA Officer
Ryan founded Restricted Handling to bridge the gap between national security professionals and the public conversation on global stability and defense innovation.
⚡ Episode Highlights
The truth about loitering munitions, kamikaze drones, and swarm warfare
How rare earth minerals and supply chains could decide the next major conflict
Why AI-driven avatars and cyber ops are redefining modern influence campaigns
Lessons from Operation Spiderweb and the new era of energy warfare
What the U.S. and NATO must learn from Ukraine before it’s too late
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