In episode 8, Darryl Hart and Crawford Gribben talk to Daniel McCarthy about "Americanism" - the effort by many American Catholics to fit the church's teachings to the constitutional and cultural expectations of the republic - and the efforts made by integralists to resist it. Dan is well-known as the editor of Modern Age, as a contributor to The Spectator and as a visiting fellow at the Center for the Study of Statesmanship at the Catholic University of America. Dan also runs the Robert Novak Journalism Fellowship Program at the Fund for American Studies (currently open for applications).

You can find a quick summary of the debate about Americanism and integralism in this article. Darryl has reconstructed the history of Americanism in his recently published book, American Catholic: The politics of faith during the Cold War (Cornell University Press, 2020). Dan publishes widely. His recent article on economic nationalism gives a taster for his new book, American nationalism: A manifesto, which will be published next year.