Between the territory in which you currently exist and the next territory into which you will enter, there lies a clandestine space. It may be a moment where you realize that the boundaries of the territory around you are crumbling, a moment where you feel the need to follow a new path, or moment into which you escape occasionally; this moment is The Refrain. Join Joshua Sanchez, Krishna Patel, PanPan, and other guests as we traverse the vast worlds of philosophy, spirituality, and economics.