In this episode of the Real Math of Business podcast, Alena Bennett interviews David Gunn, a risk management expert, who shares his unique perspective on risk as a strategic enabler in business.

David discusses his career journey, the importance of positivity in risk management, and how to create a culture of smart risk-taking within organisations. He emphasises the need for resilience in the current business landscape and the significance of embedding risk management into everyday business practices.

The conversation highlights the value of storytelling, language, and open dialogue in making risk management relevant and impactful.

Alena also shares her WINATM (What I'm Noticing At The Moment) about whether companies can burn out, and a listener question about feeling unfulfilled in a current role.

To reach out to David Gunn;

https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-gunn-b485502/

The Real Math of Business with Alena Bennett is a podcast where we look beyond the numbers in business; where people serve people, and the maths just works.

And to grab a copy of Alena's latest book "CFO of the Future: 

https://www.alenabennett.com.au/books

And to reach out to Alena:

www.alenabennett.com.auhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/alenabennett/ 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and WINATM: Can Companies Burn Out

03:00 Introduction to David Gunn

05:42 The Meaning Behind 'No Risk, No Biscuit'

08:56 David's Career Journey and Mindset on Risk15:18 The Current Business Landscape and Risk

18:03 Defining Resilience and Strategic Risk

22:29 Creating a Culture of Smart Risk at Xero

28:23 Demonstrating the Value of Risk Management

29:44 Introducing Risk in Innovative Environments

34:39 The Importance of Language and Positivity in Risk Management

38:42 Creating Value Through Strategic Conversations

41:36 Common Sense vs. Common Practice in Risk Management

47:14 Closing Thoughts: The Journey of Risk Management

49:00 Listener Question and Close