In this episode, Jen Bowden is joined by Australian Gothic novelist Kathy George, to talk about her new book Estella.

Estella is a haunting and darkly beautiful retelling of Dicken's Great Expectations, in which the icily enigmatic anti-hero, Estella, tells her own story ... and changes the ending in this beguiling feminist take on a classic.

Estella is published by Harper Collins

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