The Public Lands Policy Podcast delves into the essential topics shaping the future of public lands in the United States. Join host Andrew Sandstrom, an experienced environmental policy writer and radio commentator, as he brings together voices from Utah, Colorado, and beyond, featuring land managers, ranchers, hunters, and conservation experts. Whether you're passionate about policy, outdoor recreation, or sustainable land management, this podcast provides in-depth conversations on issues impacting public lands, natural resources, and wildlife preservation.
With five years in environmental policy writing and hands-on experience in reporting, Andrew combines expert storytelling and insider knowledge, creating a platform for insightful discussions on topics like land use regulations, conservation challenges, public access, and the impact of policy changes on America's vast landscapes.
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In-depth interviews with experts in public land management, policy-making, and conservation.
Perspectives from local communities and stakeholders invested in sustainable land use.
Key insights into challenges facing public lands in states like Utah and Colorado, where diverse interests collide and cooperation is crucial.
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The Public Lands Policy Podcast delves into the essential topics shaping the future of public lands in the United States. Join host Andrew Sandstrom, an experienced environmental policy writer and radio commentator, as he brings together voices from Utah, Colorado, and beyond, featuring land managers, ranchers, hunters, and conservation experts. Whether you're passionate about policy, outdoor recreation, or sustainable land management, this podcast provides in-depth conversations on issues impacting public lands, natural resources, and wildlife preservation.
With five years in environmental policy writing and hands-on experience in reporting, Andrew combines expert storytelling and insider knowledge, creating a platform for insightful discussions on topics like land use regulations, conservation challenges, public access, and the impact of policy changes on America's vast landscapes.
Tune in for:
In-depth interviews with experts in public land management, policy-making, and conservation.
Perspectives from local communities and stakeholders invested in sustainable land use.
Key insights into challenges facing public lands in states like Utah and Colorado, where diverse interests collide and cooperation is crucial.
Subscribe to The Public Lands Policy Podcast for a unique perspective on the intricate balance between development, conservation, and the future of public lands in America.
Episode 6 - How to Fire Your Workforce (Civil Service Edition)
The Public Lands Policy Podcast
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8 months ago
Episode 6 - How to Fire Your Workforce (Civil Service Edition)
We cut fast and cut deep in this episode with “notorious anti-ESG lobbyist” Nephi Cole, who helps us dissect the recent wave of federal layoffs that’s hit public lands agencies in the last month. From the Forest Service to National Parks, thousands of public employees have been sent packing. Nephi explains how the unorthodox approach of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency is affecting federal agencies, how the administration's approach seems to be changing, and how to cut fat in federal agencies without cutting muscle.
Politico article on Musk and cabinet secretaries: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us
E&E article on federal layoffs: https://www.eenews.net/articles/forest-service-braces-for-up-to-7000-layoffs/
Nephi’s piece in the Gazette: https://gazette.com/opinion/perspective-using-guns-to-drive-a-wedge/article_a03febba-0308-11ef-93fd-9f75c65ed8cd.html
Ridgeline: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55077562-ridgeline
Your Mountain Podcast episode about federal layoffs: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WVy3QO588qsnRlLR7L4qF?si=00a854a83bdb45dd
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The Public Lands Policy Podcast
The Public Lands Policy Podcast delves into the essential topics shaping the future of public lands in the United States. Join host Andrew Sandstrom, an experienced environmental policy writer and radio commentator, as he brings together voices from Utah, Colorado, and beyond, featuring land managers, ranchers, hunters, and conservation experts. Whether you're passionate about policy, outdoor recreation, or sustainable land management, this podcast provides in-depth conversations on issues impacting public lands, natural resources, and wildlife preservation.
With five years in environmental policy writing and hands-on experience in reporting, Andrew combines expert storytelling and insider knowledge, creating a platform for insightful discussions on topics like land use regulations, conservation challenges, public access, and the impact of policy changes on America's vast landscapes.
Tune in for:
In-depth interviews with experts in public land management, policy-making, and conservation.
Perspectives from local communities and stakeholders invested in sustainable land use.
Key insights into challenges facing public lands in states like Utah and Colorado, where diverse interests collide and cooperation is crucial.
Subscribe to The Public Lands Policy Podcast for a unique perspective on the intricate balance between development, conservation, and the future of public lands in America.
