In an interview episode, I talk to Craig Jones MBE, Executive Director of Fighting With Pride  that supports the health and wellbeing of LGBT+Veterans, service personnel and their families. We talk about his background in the Royal Navy; the lifting of the ‘gay ban’ in the armed forces and the challenges he, and many others, faced; his varied career when he left the Royal Navy; how Fighting With Pride started, its achievements in influencing government and the challenges that remain.