In this episode, Kat chats with Gail Song Bantum about her and her husband, Brian’s new book, Choosing Us: Marriage and Mutual Flourishing in a World of Difference. Gail rewrites the marriage narrative by highlighting mutual flourishing and the freedom and beauty that comes with that in our relationships with our spouses. Reverend Gail Song Bantum is the Lead Pastor of Quest Church, an urban, multi, and inclusive community in the heart of Seattle. Pastor Gail is particularly passionate about empowering emerging leaders and is a highly sought after speaker, preacher, and consultant. She is a contributing author of the New York Times Bestseller, A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal, edited by Sarah Bessey, and co-author of Choosing Us: Marriage and Mutual Flourishing in a World of Difference. Pastor Gail received her M.Div. from Duke Divinity School and is an ordained minister in the Evangelical Covenant Church. She and her husband, Dr. Brian Bantum, have three young adult sons and reside in Seattle, WA. Follow Gail and her family on their website www.theBantumspace.com Follow Kat @Kat_armas Follow Chasing Justice @chasingjustice_ Support The Protagonistas on Patreon!