The transition from teacher or senior school leader to tumuaki is more than just a title change – it's a professional and personal transformation. This episode talks about the transition into principalship, the differences between senior leadership and principalship, and ERO research into pathways new principals take, and their sense of preparedness for the role. My guests are: Jacqui Brown, principal of New Plymouth Girls’ High School Prisca MacDonald, tumuaki of Tawa Intermediate School Elena Moretti, Director Engagement and Impact, ERO This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education.   You can learn more by accessing the e-learning modules for principals on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz   Additional information ERO report summary: Guide for aspiring and new principals: ERO's new principals research   ERO full report: ‘Everything Was New’: Preparing and Supporting New Principals   Principal Development Map https://workforce.education.govt.nz/principals-and-schools/professional-development-and-support-principals/principal-development-map