In this episode, we explore what happens after the initial rush of love—the limerence, the passion, the all-consuming desire to be together. Ashley and Lair talk about the natural and necessary phase of individuation that follows, when the real work of relationship begins. How do we return to our rhythms, our routines, our own inner lives—without disconnecting from the relationship? We reflect on the importance of allowing space for personal growth, how to navigate this shift with curiosity instead of fear, and why the conversations during this time are some of the most important for deepening emotional intimacy and long-term connection.

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Lair and Ashley Torrent host the Practice of Love Podcast. Lair is a psychotherapist and author of The Practice of Love and Ashley Torrent is a psycho-spiritual counselor and intuitive medium. Together they discuss from a personal and clinical perspective what it means to practice love in our relationships with our partners, friends, family members, children, ourselves, and our work. They also share the ups and downs of their 21-year relationship and how the practice of love has kept it alive, sexy, and connective.

You can find Ashley on Instagram at @ashleytorrent29 or on her website ashleytorrent.com.

You can find Lair on Instagram at @lairtorrentholisitictherapist or on his website lairtorrent.com. 

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