Jon Kelly and Peter Hamby reunite for a talmudic reading of David Ellison’s first week on the job and some obsessive theorizing about his tech fantasies. Then they delve into the convergence of cable news and podcasting. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Axios’s Sara Fischer returns to the pod to help make sense of the biggest sports media plot lines from the past few weeks: Paramount’s $7.7 billion deal with UFC, ESPN’s respective bombshell pacts with the NFL and WWE, the network’s forthcoming D.T.C. product, and much, much more. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you subscribe to The Varsity. Click here to subscribe To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren Sherman joins Peter to assess how much magazine covers actually move the cultural needle in today’s digital-first media landscape. While big stars are still lining up for attention-grabbing shoots, Lauren suggests these expensive productions now mostly serve industry insiders, celebrity egos, and social media feeds. Peter and Lauren also explore the shrinking footprint of legacy magazines and the growing dominance of digital platforms in shaping pop culture. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Ourand joins Peter Hamby to break down a consequential stretch in sports media, with Paramount cutting a $7.7 billion check for UFC rights and ESPN expanding its sports empire ahead of football season with its forthcoming super app. As John explains, these moves are part of a concerted push by legacy media to fight back against the rise of tech platforms and streamers. And despite the industry upheaval, the old guard still holds one powerful advantage: bigger audiences. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ian Krietzberg joins guest host Julia Ioffe to discuss Sam Altman’s latest gambit: offering ChatGPT Enterprise to U.S. government agencies for next to nothing, in hopes of building muscle memory inside the government and promoting the widespread adoption of A.I. in day-to-day operations. Yet, as adoption grows, so do the questions and concerns—about security, reliability, and the costs of running energy-hungry systems prone to unpredictable errors. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Abby Livingston joins guest host Julia Ioffe to break down the August recess town halls, where some members of Congress are dodging the spotlight while others face heat over the Big Beautiful Bill and the Epstein scandal. They also discuss the latest Texas redistricting battle—and what it all means for the road to the 2026 midterms. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Kelly and Peter Hamby reunite to discuss some of the overlooked complexifiers in David Ellison's conquest of Paramount. They also assess the challenging points of leverage between ESPN and Fox and their respective college football media heroes, Pat McAfee and Dave Portnoy   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katie Drummond, global editorial director of Wired, joins the pod to reflect on her overhaul of the tech magazine—transforming it into a sharp-edged outlet covering the dystopian intersection of technology, politics, and culture. She discusses the significance of original reporting, Wired’s notable growth and ambitions growth strategy, A.I.’s threat to journalism, and much, much more. The Grill Room Podcast is presented by bp. See all the ways we’re investing in America: https://www.bp.com/InvestingInAmerica Make sure you subscribe to The Grill Room here To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kim Masters joins Peter to dig into the latest buzz around Hollywood: that Paramount C.E.O. David Ellison is eyeing a slimmed-down Warner Bros. as a potential acquisition target. They consider the potential upsides of a merger, the regulatory hurdles, and the implications for the entertainment ecosystem writ large. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

John Ourand joins Peter Hamby to break down ESPN’s flurry of major announcements this week, from its big NFL broadcast deal to the addition of RedZone and premium WWE content. As ESPN prepares to launch its long-awaited D.T.C. product later this month, Jimmy Pitaro has outined a future where sports fans no longer need to toggle between cable, YouTube TV, Hulu, and Disney to watch the games and programming they want. Can it deliver? To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julia Ioffe joins guest host Leigh Ann Caldwell to discuss the strange and unsettling appointment of Lew Olowski, a Trump loyalist, to lead H.R. at the State Department. They examine his history of erratic behavior—from accessing classified files to delivering bizarre speeches—and how his rise reflects a broader push to reshape U.S. diplomacy around political allegiance rather than competence. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Abby Livingston joins Leigh Ann Caldwell to break down the latest Texas redistricting showdown, as Democrats once again flee the state in protest of a Republican map designed to secure long-term House dominance. They examine what this tactic might actually accomplish—and the implications for Texas and national politics. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Kelly reunites with Peter Hamby to dissect the Wall Street Journal’s editorial renaissance under Emma Tucker—and how their current business model and Washington coverage contrasts with rival New York Times. Then the duo explore whether Apple TV+ might finally embrace ads as a way to stop the bleeding on its high-gloss, money-losing streaming service. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren's guest is Amy Odell, author of Gwyneth: The Biography. They discuss actress Gwyneth Paltrow's second life as a wellness influencer, editor, fashion designer, and C.E.O. and founder of GOOP, the lifestyle business that has attracted plenty of attention but struggled to turn a profit. They also discuss GP's relationship with Anna Wintour, who was the subject of Amy's first book.Gwyneth: The BiographyAnna: The Biography To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ian Krietzberg joins Peter Hamby to survey the global A.I. arms race, and whether other countries are taking the same regulation-free, Wild West approach to artificial intelligence as the United States. Then they dig into the merit behind Mark Zuckerberg’s brow-raising claim that Meta is close to developing something called “Super Intelligence.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Abby Livingston joins Leigh Ann Caldwell to dissect the new Texas redistricting maps—part of a Trump-backed effort to expand the G.O.P. House majority. They dig into the political strategies behind the scenes, how Democrats are likely to respond, and whether Texas is a preview of a broader redistricting push. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Marion Maneker joins guest host Julia Alexander to explore the surging collectibles market, and how that may impact art trading as we know it. Then they dig into the recent earnings reports from Christie’s and Heritage, and why Marion believes the art market’s fundamentals are stronger than the prevailing anxiety might suggest. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Eriq Gardner joins Julia Alexander to revisit the lasting fallout from Hulk Hogan’s landmark lawsuit against Gawker—backed by Peter Thiel—and how it reshaped the media industry’s legal risk calculus. Then they turn to Disney’s escalating crackdown on unauthorized Mickey Mouse merch, and what it signals about the new frontier of I.P. enforcement. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Kelly reunites with Peter to chew over the Trump administration’s official blessing of the Skydance–Paramount merger—and the controversial ‘South Park’ broadside that almost blew it all up. Then they explore ESPN’s potential acquisition of NFL media, and what it could mean for Red Zone diehards and the future of football on Sundays. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

NASCAR commissioner Steve Phelps joins John Ourand for a candid conversation about the sport’s evolving media ecosystem, including new deals with Fox, NBC, and Amazon Prime. Phelps also outlines NASCAR’s experimental growth strategy; explains why he’s not in competition with F1 and IndyCar; and weighs in on the simmering legal standoff with Denny Hamlin and Michael Jordan—while making the case for why polarizing personalities like Hamlin are important for increasing fan engagement. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices