In the final episode of the series, Peter is in conversation with Professor of Economics, Calvin Jones, where they unpack how Calvin helped to shape the public value narrative of Cardiff Business School.

As their conversation progresses, Calvin hypothesises the future trajectory of public value. He shares his personal view on what business schools could do next to further advance, and demonstrate, their commitment to public value and its evolution. This includes suggestions for disrupting existing HE models, revisiting international recruitment approaches, and other ways in which, from his perspective, academia could meet the challenge of creating a more sustainable world.