This weeks episode is a mixed bag of sorts. We both share personal updates, including our time at the Billie Eilish concert, Hellen's journey of buying a house(!!!!!!), and navigating the challenges of doing that while self employed. We discuss the importance of work-life balance, the dynamics of team pony, and reflections on relationships and community. The conversation also touches on creative pursuits and personal growth, highlighting the joy of self-expression and the significance of finding fulfillment in life. It's real sweet.