Podcasting for your business is supposed to grow your influence and opportunities… but for most podcasters, it feels like a time-consuming side project with no clear return.
If you’ve ever asked yourself:
“Is this even worth it?”
“Why isn’t my audience growing?”
“How do I actually make money from my podcast?”
You’re in the right place.
I’m Kaleb, a creative entrepreneur on a mission to turn podcasting into a real business asset—without burning out.
The Podcaster’s Journey is an open journal, a behind-the-scenes look at what actually works when it comes to building an audience, streamlining your workflow, and making podcasting sustainable for your business.
Season 2: The 90-Day Podcast Business Growth Challenge
For the next 90 days, I’m going all in—
Tracking every download, every lead, every dollar
Building offers & fixing my workflow in real time
Documenting what actually works (and what doesn’t)
No fluff. No theory. Just real results—or real lessons.
If you want to see what actually works, follow along.
New episodes every Tuesday.
Ready to build a podcast that fuels your business? Let’s go.
Podcasting for your business is supposed to grow your influence and opportunities… but for most podcasters, it feels like a time-consuming side project with no clear return.
If you’ve ever asked yourself:
“Is this even worth it?”
“Why isn’t my audience growing?”
“How do I actually make money from my podcast?”
You’re in the right place.
I’m Kaleb, a creative entrepreneur on a mission to turn podcasting into a real business asset—without burning out.
The Podcaster’s Journey is an open journal, a behind-the-scenes look at what actually works when it comes to building an audience, streamlining your workflow, and making podcasting sustainable for your business.
Season 2: The 90-Day Podcast Business Growth Challenge
For the next 90 days, I’m going all in—
Tracking every download, every lead, every dollar
Building offers & fixing my workflow in real time
Documenting what actually works (and what doesn’t)
No fluff. No theory. Just real results—or real lessons.
If you want to see what actually works, follow along.
New episodes every Tuesday.
Ready to build a podcast that fuels your business? Let’s go.
Episode Summary:
Welcome to The Podcaster’s Journey! In this episode, Kaleb is joined by podcasting educator and content creator Moses Kabandana to explore how podcasters can build sustainable workflows and avoid burnout. Moses shares his journey from content creation to podcasting and reveals the systems and strategies that have helped him maintain consistency over time. This episode is packed with actionable tips for reducing friction, balancing creativity with practicality, and focusing on long-term success.
Key Points & Highlights:
• The role of planning in podcasting longevity
• Reducing friction in podcast production to make the process easier
• Tips for taking intentional breaks to avoid burnout
• Moses’s inspiring journey from content creator to podcasting educator
• How to build sustainable workflows that keep you consistent
Episode Timestamps:
0:03 - Relating to the Challenge of Podcast Consistency
0:32 - Episode Introduction and Focus on Sustainability
1:02 - Guest Introduction: Moses Cabandana and His Journey
2:37 - Beginning the Interview with Moses
3:06 - Moses on Traveling in Rishikesh, India
3:31 - Discussing Travel and Cultural Exploration
5:01 - Moses’s Shift to Remote Work and Full-Time Traveling
5:57 - Highlights of 2024 Travels Across Continents
7:25 - Kaleb Reflects on His Limited Travel Experiences
9:31 - Transition to Podcast Sustainability Conversation
10:01 - Moses’s Early Beginnings and Introduction to Technology
10:59 - Moses’s Journey into Podcasting
12:27 - Evolving Focus of Moses’s Podcast Content
13:25 - The Importance of Stories in Podcasting
14:48 - Key Moments Leading to Moses’s Podcast Journey
15:39 - Moses’s Early Content Creation on YouTube and Vine
17:34 - The Evolution of Podcasting and Video Content
18:39 - Creative Challenges with Vine’s Short Format
21:21 - Balancing Creativity and Sustainability in Podcasting
21:50 - Finding a Unique Podcast Perspective and Focus
23:15 - Exploring Refugee Stories as a Podcast Niche
24:39 - Kaleb Reflects on the Power of Storytelling
26:33 - Moses on Learning to Listen as a Podcaster
28:26 - The Journey of Becoming a Better Listener
30:23 - Memorable Podcast Episodes and Conversations
32:45 - Kaleb’s Most Impactful Podcast Conversation So Far
34:37 - Introducing Cabandana Academy and Its Origins
36:02 - Empowering Podcasters Through Education
37:59 - Moses’s Vision for Sustainable Podcasting
39:21 - The Core Mission of Cabandana Academy
42:11 - Reducing Friction in Podcasting for Longevity
46:05 - Planning: A Key to Avoiding Podfade
49:28 - Personal Lessons from Burnout in Podcasting
51:50 - Creating Systems for Podcast Sustainability
55:17 - The Importance of Taking Breaks in Podcasting
57:38 - Overcoming the Fear of Taking Breaks
58:36 - Moses’s Struggles with Editing Burnout
1:00:29 - Case Study on Benefits of Taking a Podcast Break
1:03:53 - Communicating Breaks with Your Audience
1:06:12 - Prioritizing Long-Term Goals Over Short-Term Consistency
1:09:27 - The Podcaster’s Journey: Learning from Burnout
1:13:32 - Balancing Creativity and Systems for Sustainability
1:17:24 - What’s Next for Cabandana Academy
1:20:50 - The Value of Slowing Down During Growth
1:23:13 - Call to Action: Just Start Recording Your Podcast
1:24:33 - Where to Find Moses’s Podcast and Resources
1:26:37 - Closing Thoughts on Sustainability in Podcasting
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Resources Mentioned:
• The Moses Kandaba Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMosesKabandanaPodcast/videos
• Moses's IG: https://www.instagram.com/kabandanamoses/
• The Podcaster’s Journey Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thepodcastersjourney
Call to Action:
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Podcast Video Version: https://youtu.be/RvROlqtFNM4