Katy Kelly is one of four hosts of The Multiversity Project, a podcast for "higher-dimensional education", and is known for forming a voluntaryist meet-up in Austin, Texas, as well as in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco. Years ago, she decided to leave her comfortable life in the US and head to Mexico to explore greater depths of self-knowledge and understanding a foreign culture, and to find a less stressful life.

In this episode Katy and Kurt discuss Katy's past, how she came to be an advocate in world peace who was set to join the military, discovered libertarianism and voluntaryism, exploring non-violent communication, founding meet-ups, why she decided to move to Mexico and the strangeness of being in a very different culture, how she found work online, why she now has doubts about voluntaryism and the NAP, the philosophical basis of property rights, and how culture can be more important than government in deciding the fate of a nation.

Note: in this episode we mention the structure of Luxembourg, but we were actually thinking of the principality of Liechtenstein.

Check out The Multiversity Project: https://multiversitypodcast.com