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The Panel
Justin Jackson & Brian Casel
27 episodes
3 days ago
When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
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When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
Show more...
Entrepreneurship
Technology,
Business
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I don't love SaaS anymore
The Panel
1 hour 26 minutes
3 months ago
I don't love SaaS anymore

AI and programming is a hot topic, and it feels like Brian⁩ has found that "founder/audience" fit where his interests align with a wave of audience interest. He and Justin discuss their process for making YouTube videos. Justin also asks: "how do we ensure that our worst tendencies don’t bloom" when we're making products? (Founder retreats and masterminds come up). The big topic: Brian's not loving SaaS (anymore).


Timestamps:

  • (00:06) - Brian's YouTube journey
  • (04:29) - What Brian's hoping BuilderMethods could be
  • (08:26) - What does Brian's YouTube video script look like?
  • (10:59) - Why is AI so bad for YouTube editors?
  • (16:57) - One thing Descript really nails
  • (19:44) - How Steve Jobs ruined his early companies
  • (24:25) - Learning about your blindspots
  • (28:40) - Seeking connection in mastermind groups or conferences
  • (38:00) - How can we make sure we don't follow our worst impulses?
  • (42:23) - Zooming in on our battery: what gives us energy?
  • (53:00) - Getting alignment between what you love and what makes you money
  • (01:00:10) - What might not work for one person, can be a smash hit for another
  • (01:03:20) - What is the paid value of content lead companies?
  • (01:21:07) - There are business models that are difficult

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Links mentioned in this episode

  • Clarity Flow - Brian's SaaS product
  • Transistor.fm - Justin's company
  • Builder Methods
  • The Panel Podcast (@panelpodcast.com) | TikTok
  • Descript: Edit Videos & Podcasts Like a Doc | AI Video Editor
  • DaVinci Resolve | Blackmagic Design
  • Dithering
  • Daring Fireball
  • Shawn Blanc: Focus Like a Boss
  • calf + clover creamery
  • Daniel Pink
  • Tally
  • Profit First - Mike Michalowicz
  • Mike Michalowicz – How the author of Profit First stays lean by licensing his ideas
  • Apple in China
  • Justin’s BlueSky post on Steve Jobs
  • The Pull Framework
  • Bowling drawing
  • Marketing help for programmers, software companies, and SaaS
  • Checklist idea for marketing page
  • Profit first professionals
The Panel
When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.