Jeffrey Creamer is a packrafter based in Colorado who loves designing creative whitewater expedition routes. His favourite trips combine hard whitewater with backcountry skiing or ski mountaineering, often in remote areas of the lower 48 where people don’t typically explore. In this episode we chat about many of his most memorable adventures, including a Bull Lake Creek trip and adapting the ‘Du’Mor’ packraft route to include several ski legs. We also talk about packrafting Upper Cherry Creek, a classic whitewater run in the Sierra Nevada. As a special bonus at the end of this episode I talk to Thor Tingey from Alpacka Raft. He shares a bit more about the history of design for their more technical boats and what’s so special about their new packraft, the Valkyrie.