Outvertising's Joanne Oatts talks role models - with Kat Urban and Jonathan Palmer. Kat is the Co-Director of Training, Development & Wellbeing for Outvertising, as well as the Services Project Manager at NABS - where she project leads many key initiatives, including TimeTo, the Future Leaders Awards and is Chair of NABS's Diversity & Inclusion Board. Jonathan Palmer - aka JP - is Kat's fellow Co-Director of Training, Development & Wellbeing for Outvertising, as well as Head of Social at Vizeum UK, part of Dentsu, where he's also founding co-chair of the Dentsu &PROUD network. We talk about LGBTQ+ role models, how brands and individuals can get involved in role model training, as well as JP and Kat's own role models - both growing up and in the industry today. LINKS Sign up for Role Model Training: https://www.outvertising.org/calendar NABS https://nabs.org.uk/ Vizeum https://www.vizeum.co.uk/ Bloom Fest https://www.bloomuk.org/bloomfest For more info on role model training get in touch with Kat or JP - email katrina@outvertising.org or jonathan@outvertising.org