In this week’s special episode, hosts Dr. Heather Monthie and Jeremy (harbinger) Miller sit down with Dr. Timothy Summers, PhD and Executive Director of Product Development at Arizona State University. Summers is an ethical hacker, professor, TED speaker, and a leading expert in cybersecurity strategy, blockchain technology, and how hackers think. To begin, he explains how he first got into cybersecurity when he got hacked himself. From this experience, he generated a curiosity about why and how it happened. He then shares his hobbies outside of cybersec and dives into his work on hacking cognitive psychology and the hacker mindset. Our guest highlights how organizations can learn from how hackers think to increase innovation within their own company and teach them how to protect themselves better. Summers also emphasizes how recruiters can screen potential hackers. Lastly, he shares other tech projects he’s been working on. Enjoy!