Host Harbinger (Jeremy Miller) sits down with Dr. Heather Monthie, Head of Cybersecurity Training, Education, and Innovation at OffSec. In this episode, Heather highlights her diverse background in education, leadership, and technology and how this allows her to improve initiatives at OffSec. Then, she details the intersection of teaching and learning in the classroom and how this relates in OffSec courses. Harbinger and Monthie additionally dive into the importance of being a lifelong learner in the cybersecurity industry and the best way to create a safe learning environment. Finally, they wrap up by emphasizing the significance of continuing to do the work and why Try Harder allows students to get comfortable with the uncomfortable.