Host TJ Null sits down with Billy Trobbiani (c0ntra), Content Developer at OffSec. c0ntra starts by describing what got him interested in joining the Information Security field. Then, he details the role he specialized in when he was a blue teamer and the issues that blue teamers face during their day-to-day operations. c0ntra additionally reveals how he felt after his transition from defense to offense in cybersecurity. Next, they dive into how people on the defensive side of cybersec can learn techniques from those on the offensive side. We then learn how c0ntra got into the blue team side of cybersec. Lastly, they chat about c0ntra’s interest in cooking and escape rooms. Enjoy the episode!