In this episode, Alastair welcomes Paul Muller, Technical Sales Manager at Perkins, into our studio. Perkins' approach to energy transition explores a range of different technologies, such as drop-in fuels, hybridization, alternative fuels and full electrification. We discuss the need for a customer-centric approach and working with OEMs to find the best solution for their specific needs, and understanding real-world machine usage through data collection. We talk about the need for technology-neutral legislation to drive innovation. Paul also chats with us about Project Coeus, which focuses on multi-fuel capabilities and hybrid systems. For more information on what Perkins offer around energy transition, visit: https://www.perkins.com/advancedpower ** Music: Mocha Music, Courtesy of Shutterstock, Inc. Stock Photography: ABCDStock, Courtesy of Shutterstock, Inc.