in this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, nuud money ceo mpumelelo ndamane sits down with dennis westphal — crypto growth strategist and host of the growth junction podcast — for a conversation that spans continents, convictions, and crypto cycles.

recorded from mpumelelo’s apartment in johannesburg and dennis’ studio in germany, the two dig into why nuud money exists, how bitcoin is more than just a digital asset, and what it means to build financial tools for people living on the edge of inflation and instability. they unpack the emotional journey of founding in africa, the trends shaping adoption on the continent, and why profitability doesn’t have to come at the cost of purpose.

if you care about freedom, growth, or just want to understand where crypto is going next — this one’s for you. 💚