In this episode of The Nowhere Office, Stefan Stern and Julia Hobsbawm discuss leadership with Barbara Kellerman. Our My Working Life feature is an interview with American union organiser Jaz Brisack, who has been involved with movements at Nissan, Starbucks, and Tesla.

This episode covers:

• Tulip Siddiq's resignation and what it reveals about the challenges facing the workplace that is 10 Downing Street
• An interview with Barbara Kellerman, founding member of the Harvard Kennedy School, about her latest book Leadership from Bad to Worse: What Happens When Bad Festers
• Reflections on Donald Trump’s inauguration and his anti-establishment leadership style
• The abundance of bad leaders, from politics to business, and the important role of followers
• Declining trust in once-revered institutions
• Dissatisfaction with capitalism in the United States
• Luigi Mangione and the killing of Brian Thompson
• The styles of business leaders like Elizabeth Holmes and Elon Musk.

The Nowhere Office is a Fully Connected Production in partnership with Sandstone Global Productions. Music by Julian Brezon. Discover more at workathon.io.

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