In today's podcast, we had an enriching conversation with Phillip McKernan that I was eagerly anticipating. It's a dialogue with layers and moods, at times heavy, but always real and raw. These kinds of conversations, where humans connect meaningfully, are the ones I cherish most. We delve into the depth of being human, sharing our experiences and emotions. Take your time with this episode, carve out space for reflection, and share your thoughts and feelings with us.