Recently featured in The Sunday Times’ Christmas gift guide, The World Between the Rain is a new children’s book by debut author Susan Cahill. A story that plays out themes of grief and resilience within a swirling, watery adventure set in another world, it has at its centre a quiet girl called Marina who can’t shake the feeling that there is magic in the air around her. Susan herself couldn’t quite shake this story that rattled around in her head as she became more and more successful in the world of academia, ultimately reaching a tenured position as Associate Professor of Irish Studies in Concordia University, Montreal. In the episode, she talks about leaving this permanent position behind in order to pursue writing full-time, the long process of writing the book and her own podcast, Storyshaped, which focuses on the stories that shape the people we become.