In this episode, we talk to Professor Alf Coles and Professor Nathalie Sinclair about their book, I Can’t Do Maths! Why children say it and how to make a difference. In the book, Alf and Nathalie identify, unpick and challenge some of the most commonly-held beliefs about maths teaching and learning. In Part 1 of our conversation, we explore the background to the book and the first two dogmas, or myths, about maths education that Alf and Nathalie explore in the book. A transcript (PDF) of this episode is available to download.   Show notes Taking part in the discussion: Professor Alf Coles, University of Bristol Professor Nathalie Sinclair, Simon Fraser University, British Columbia Julia Thomson, Communications Manager, NCETM. Episode chapters 00:05 - Introduction to part 1 01:02 - Meet Professors Alf Coles and Nathalie Sinclair 02:06 - Unpacking the concept of ‘dogmas’ in maths education 05:52 - Exploring the first dogma: maths is a building-block subject 11:51 - Challenging the second dogma: maths is always right or wrong 16:58 - Conclusion and preview of Part 2. Useful links I Can’t Do Maths! Why children say it and how to make a difference by Professor Alf Coles and Professor Nathalie Sinclair (Bloomsbury, 2022)   NCETM Primary Mastery Professional Development Materials NCETM Curriculum Prioritisation in Primary Maths Journeys on the Gattegno Tens Chart by Alf Coles, 2014 Explore previous episodes of the NCETM podcast in our archive.