Talking about climate change can be riddled with pitfalls...and as it turns out - the scientific facts aren't necessarily the best place to start. In this episode Tessa speaks with one of Australia's best known social researchers and author - Rebecca Huntley. Along with degrees in Law and film studies, and a PHD in gender studies, Rebecca has written numerous books and essays, and is a regular commentator on radio and television. Having delved into some of our most complex social issues Rebecca recently turned her focus to helping the climate crisis and produced her latest book How To Talk About Climate Change In A Way That Makes A Difference. A remarkable study into which emotions are useful and which are not when it comes to climate change communication. In this episode we dig deep into the psychology of the human brain and explore how Australians really feel about climate change, why it's sometimes hard to engage, the perils of politicization and how best to tackle tricky and scary conversations.