This episode is part 3 of a series of conversations prompted by the recent Cover Story, Power Trip podcast episodes exploring the MDMA-Assisted therapy trials by MAPS and the stories of participants who went through severe negative experiences that were previously not publicly known or acknowledged. In this episode we deep dive into a series of thought experiments around the role of the therapist in psychedelic therapy and imagine into what testable mechanisms for good outcomes might look like. More show notes here.

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