Gym owner and world class route setter Carlie LeBreton is back on the podcast to share her experience as a mother, a climber, and paving the way for the next generation of female and gender diverse route setters.  Carlie shares her own struggles with guilt, failure, and the mental load so many of us struggle with no matter what level of climbing we are at.  Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting this episode and series 5 of the podcast Urban Climb and Climbing Anchors Mum's Gone Climbing Merchandise 20% Discount Code MGCPOD5 You can follow Carlie on instagram @carlieclimbs Learn more about the incredible route setting initiative @__thisisnotadrill Content Warning: infrequent strong language Disclaimer: Content, commentary, and opinions shared on the Mum's Gone Climbing podcast are for informational purposes only. They are not a substitute for medical and/or health advice from a professional, and should not be substituted for care based on the facts/circumstances of your individual situation.