In this powerful episode, Lou and Adina sit down with Laura to explore a type of mother loss that often goes unnamed: estrangement. Laura became a mother in 2005 while still in contact with her own mother, navigating years of parenting with someone in her life who couldn't show up in the way she needed. She shares what it was like to feel deeply alone while technically “not alone” and how setting boundaries—eventually leading to full estrangement in 2021—brought clarity, peace, and a surprising kind of healing. Together, we talk about the grief of unmet needs, the freedom of going no contact and the strength it takes to mother yourself while mothering your children.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating a complicated mother-daughter relationship while trying to show up as the parent they needed for themselves.

Love,

Lou and Adina

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Adina mentions Kelly McDaniel's book Mother Hunger in this episode. Adina doesn't receive payment or sponsorship for this recommendation; it's simply a book she finds helpful for women on this subject.