After a short hiatus we're back with Zain Peerzada and Ali Suhail, who form part of the band Takatak, an incredible metal outfit who are finally getting the recognition they deserve. I love these guys, and their passion for their music and just generally getting stuff done. We talk about Patreon, whatever the hell DJENT is, and their opinions of the music industry. The usual. See you all next week. Thinking of doing two episodes a week maybe because got a backlog of episodes. OK bye.