Always a pleasure chatting with executive coaches. There's a whole lotta stress in the upper echelons of leadership at many companies. Terry McDougall shares her story with me about bringing everything she's learned from a 30+ year career in marketing, and then aiming those skills at helping executives wrangle their role into something really powerful. Much of the struggle stems from fear--maybe fear of change or fear of giving up control. Whatever it is, she comes alongside and acts like a 'leadership sherpa', helping guide them to their full potential. We get into a lot of topics about what true happiness looks like, and how it's actually possible to have success and happiness at work be totally divorced from each other. I was today years old when I learned that was even possible--I'd always figured there would always be at least a little sliver of happiness even at a job you mostly hate. But I guess not! And she helps get more of that to overlap however she can, for whoever is willing to learn. She's all over social media, and can be found at terrybmcdougall.com, where you can also find out about her book called 'Winning the Game of Work', also available at Amazon and Barnes and Noble. If you're an executive who's got a case of the 'ugh', Terry can help you out. Keep listening to find more about the mindset of true leadership.