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Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.
Episode 21 | Female Leadership in a World Built for Men
The Meg and Amy Show
55 minutes
1 month ago
Episode 21 | Female Leadership in a World Built for Men
🚀 BREAKING OUT OF THE DEFAULT MALE WORLD: Meg and Amy reveal the hidden challenges of female leadership in a world designed by and for men. Learn how to navigate bias, own your power, and redefine what leadership looks like in the AI era in this raw and empowering conversation.
⏰ TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction to Female Leadership Challenges
05:55 WNBA Success and Equal Pay Movement
07:06 Fiji Simo's Historic OpenAI Appointment
08:09 AI Bias: ChatGPT Recommends Lower Salaries for Women
14:17 Invisible Women: The Default Male Design Problem
18:46 Power vs. Pleasant Language in Performance Reviews
24:42 Media Bias: Men Talk Money, Women Talk Culture
30:05 When Did You First Notice You Were "Other"?
33:49 From Mentee to Threat: How Power Changes Everything
42:42 "Everyone's Full of Shit" - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
46:09 Hope for the Future: AI Era Leadership
48:50 Leadership Corner: New Mom Executive Concerns
🔑 KEY INSIGHTS:
- Why AI systems perpetuate gender bias by recommending lower salaries for women
- The "default male" problem affects everything from T-shirts to car safety systems
- How women are described as "pleasant" while men get "powerful" language in reviews
- The shift from welcomed mentee to perceived threat as women gain real power
- Why balancing confidence with warmth is a uniquely female leadership challenge
📚 RESOURCES:
- Kieran Snyder's LinkedIn Post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kieran-snyder_35-of-people-in-the-nerd-processor-survey-activity-7358858695188901888-Yd6-?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAB5eYzoBji0hRFR25InbUtOYcrXhHjARevM
- Surface Fairness, Deep Bias: A Comparative Study of Bias
in Language Models: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.10491
- Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez: https://amazn.so/Ie3mLd9
- Freakonomics: https://amazn.so/NeeOmhN
- Likeable Badass by Alison Fragale: https://amazn.so/o1suXHW
- Kieran's Interview Study: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kieran-snyder_35-of-people-in-the-nerd-processor-survey-activity-7358858695188901888-Yd6-/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAAVeN8BrXyqZRtd37eT9lCYDRykSAdLh5A
- Jingjin Liu's Post on Diary of a CEO: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jingjin-liu_ive-been-a-long-time-admirer-of-diary-activity-7341970108489093121-nlu_?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAB5eYzoBji0hRFR25InbUtOYcrXhHjARevM
- Meg's Podcast with Charlotte Otter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6jTHKO5ieg1PPErWb6BndQ
- Amy's Podcast with Charlotte Otter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/164CQ4o14jqgRPWB40cKAC?si=Ytj7HsCeRQG8xGzhcUHT3ghttps://open.spotify.com/episode/164CQ4o14jqgRPWB40cKAC?si=Ytj7HsCeRQG8xGzhcUHT3g
- Becoming by Michelle Obama: https://amazn.so/baf6fwF
- The Insight Loop Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7357876676623544322
**🔗 CONNECT:**
Leadership Questions: amywilsonadvisor@gmail.com
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-meg-amy-show
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The Meg and Amy Show
Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.
