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The Marco Show
IntelliJ IDEA
5 episodes
3 days ago
The Marco Show is a bi-weekly podcast about AI, coding, and developer tools — hosted by Marco Behler, Developer Advocate for Java at JetBrains. Before JetBrains, Marco ran a consultancy in Munich, working with clients like BMW, Wirecard, and KVB, and built software at BWSO (now tresmo). He’s also a Java and Spring trainer, conference speaker, and writer of guides, courses, and videos. Each episode brings real conversations with tech people who actually build things: opposing opinions, hot takes, and useful insights for developers who want to go deeper. New episodes every other Wednesday.
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The Marco Show is a bi-weekly podcast about AI, coding, and developer tools — hosted by Marco Behler, Developer Advocate for Java at JetBrains. Before JetBrains, Marco ran a consultancy in Munich, working with clients like BMW, Wirecard, and KVB, and built software at BWSO (now tresmo). He’s also a Java and Spring trainer, conference speaker, and writer of guides, courses, and videos. Each episode brings real conversations with tech people who actually build things: opposing opinions, hot takes, and useful insights for developers who want to go deeper. New episodes every other Wednesday.
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Flyway: From Open Source Side Project to Multimillion Exit – Axel Fontaine
The Marco Show
2 hours 13 minutes 35 seconds
3 weeks ago
Flyway: From Open Source Side Project to Multimillion Exit – Axel Fontaine

Axel Fontaine, creator of Flyway, one of the most popular database migration tools, joins Marco to share how he built a global open source project, turned it into a profitable business, and sold it to Redgate. From bootstrapping alone to making millions without investors, Axel’s story is a deep dive into the business side of coding.

💡 Topics in this episode:

  • How Flyway grew from a side project to an acquisition

  • The power of simplicity and zero dependencies

  • Turning open source into a sustainable business

  • Bootstrapping vs venture capital

  • Life after selling your company


⏱️ Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(00:54) Guest introduction

(01:18) What is Flyway?

(02:16) Evolution of databases and CI/CD

(07:37) The idea and first version of Flyway

(10:41) Competitors and why Axel built his own tool

(13:27) Building Flyway’s simplicity and focus

(17:30) Design principles: zero dependencies and reliability

(20:18) Learning user focus through onboarding docs

(23:31) How Flyway’s roadmap evolved

(27:00) Handling bugs, testing challenges, and quality

(31:27) Marketing and early promotion

(33:49) The Maven Release Plugin blog post

(36:07) Technical mistakes and lessons learned

(38:28) Managing contributors and open-source community

(44:44) Burnout and balancing workload

(50:43) Turning Flyway into a business

(52:20) Failed monetization attempts

(01:09:11) Licensing, IP cleanup, and CLA process

(01:30:02) First commercial release and first sale

(01:31:56) Rapid revenue growth

(01:39:07) Leaving consulting and going full-time on Flyway

(01:44:30) Negotiating with enterprise customers

(01:46:55) Acquisition interest and decision process

(01:52:46) Decision to sell

(02:04:57) Life after the sale and reflection

(02:07:38) Key lessons for founders

(02:09:50) Giveaway

(02:10:47) Rapid-fire questions

(02:13:18) Outro


New episodes every other Wednesday. Subscribe for more deep, developer-focused conversations.

📺 Watch the episodes on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lwF2fg1fOHk 

The Marco Show
The Marco Show is a bi-weekly podcast about AI, coding, and developer tools — hosted by Marco Behler, Developer Advocate for Java at JetBrains. Before JetBrains, Marco ran a consultancy in Munich, working with clients like BMW, Wirecard, and KVB, and built software at BWSO (now tresmo). He’s also a Java and Spring trainer, conference speaker, and writer of guides, courses, and videos. Each episode brings real conversations with tech people who actually build things: opposing opinions, hot takes, and useful insights for developers who want to go deeper. New episodes every other Wednesday.