Tired of what’s happening in politics? Me too. I’m reposting an episode to remind us, we need to dream bigger — like Nazareth-big. I’m making the case for why my write-in vote this election would go to Mary, the mother of Jesus. In this episode, I sit down with the fierce and wise Adrienne Gibson—a therapist, mom, preacher, recent seminary grad, and now co-author with Dr. Scot McKnight (yeah, that Scot McKnight!). Adrienne just finished our She Can Teach training at The Marcella Project, and y’all—her Palm Sunday sermon was We dive deep into the toll life takes on women’s bodies. Adrienne says, “We women are living in dysregulated bodies—and it’s gonna kill us.” We unpack what that means, how it shows up in her therapy practice, and how women’s exhaustion isn’t just about busyness—it’s about systems, trauma, and the deep need for collective care. Then, we pull back the curtain on complementarianism—what it is, how it harms, and why it’s not about Jesus. Adrienne shares what trauma research revealed to her about power, patriarchy, and the stories women bring into her office. It’s raw, real, and deeply relevant. And because we just celebrated Easter, we talk incarnation, resurrection, and what it means that God gets up. How does that speak to women who feel stuck, silenced, or shattered? Finally, we get the scoop on Adrienne’s upcoming book and how you can work with her. This one is for the woman holding everything together and wondering why she feels like she’s falling apart. You’re not alone—and there’s another way forward. We’ll explore how Mary’s life experience — her leadership, her suffering, her faith — makes her more qualified than most modern candidates. Plus, I’ll midrash a little, take a few playful swings at politics-as-usual, and offer a fresh vision for leadership rooted in compassion, courage, and relentless hope. Because honestly? We don’t just need a President. We need a Mother. And Mary gets my vote.